Oh thank god, I reached the end of a comic and it’s actually still going for once.
I love this comic so much, Socket and Pivot are so wholesome and pure! And Gyro is a definite bro. 🙂
Please stand up for Gyro, please stand up for Gyro, please stand up for Gyro…
He’s CLEARLY not JUST a “basic” (from our perspective, cause he’s craftily given Pivot a “thumbs up”). Because if he can manage to think even a little outside the box, then he’s not JUST a basic.
Agreed, after all he trusted Pivot on those first few missions and she did the same, they made a great team.
He’s not just some “basic” breaker unit, he’s a good ally and a great friend.
I think tis’ more a comment on what class of robot Gyro’s supposed to be: according to WoG/Zedrin, there are ‘Basics,’ and ‘Androids’ in the PV-02 verse. To quothe his CuriousCat:
“There are two kinds of bots in PV02: androids and basics.
Basics are simple minded and hard coded. They adhere to their programming and have strict rules they have to follow. They’re usually only given basic assignments.
Androids have gray logic and come from rapidly scanning a human brain to try and emulate it. As a result androids can make judgment calls and have a sense of morality, much like a human.”
By this logic, I’d think they make the more dangerous industrial robots like breakers ‘basic’ units so that they remain predictable and compliant. So when a breaker starts exhibiting independent thought…
An apt summary, though I’m certain there’s more nuances to basics beyond simple robot arms.
For one, Gyro and apparently breakers in general are classified as basics and I’d strenuously object to comparing them to simple robot arms…emphasis on their arms aside.
For another, if I’m reading the scene correctly back in chapter 4 at page 72, the humanoid zombots might classify as basics based on what Axel’s remarking about them.
Not quite. Basics still have the ability to decide, if you recall the page where Pivot gets assigned to Epsilon. It’s just that because Basics have relatively simple programming, they prefer to follow orders over making split-second decisions themselves. Axle even says it that way, “They’re supposed to take orders, usually **don’t like making decisions themselves.**”
…is the decision-making thing a comment on the zombots? Because fair and true enough…was going with the literal definition of basics, but fair and true enough.
Socket would have gotten hurt regardless of Pivot’s involvement, and probably much worse. Vigilance is probably her best bet in keeping those she cares about safe
If I was the programmer of that basic I would defend it saying it was just following by example, and was responding to an escalating situation in which a superior “pivot” was in danger. Or that they should be glad at its ability to to act on changes in circumstances.
I would imagine a scenario in a military operation where they suddenly come under a surprise ambush, or their squad commander decided to rescue civilians, that the breaker would have to adjust to these new priorities in a situation where they have no orders, or conflict with current objectives, obviously I would want something that reevaluates its actions based on such circumstances.
I second this, I think the term “Emergent Behavior” would be very fitting for this, not to mention if I were another android in this scenario I’d remind him that A.I. with any capacity to adapt and adjust will inevitably grow.
(kinda like R2D2 and starwars)
Well, all things considered it’s… not too surprising that PV reacted in such a way. It’s hard to say how far Hivewell’s filthy arms reach so it’s not unreasonable to be afraid he might do more harm.
Spelling correction: “Wouldn’t” is missing its “U”
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Pivot: Is that a no or-
Gordon: Sure. Why not?
Pivot: Oh. So…uhh.
Gordon: AlrightpivotyougottaleavenowIstillhavesomeworktodohaveanicedaythanksforvisiting!
*Shoves Pivot out the office*
Pivot: …what just happened?
Relay: Uhh sir, isn’t that a-
Gordon: Keep an eye on them, Relay.
Relay: Roger that…wait…does that mean-
Gordon: Yes, you’re going with them.
Relay: *Internally Screaming*
Okay so to all of you who think that they will scrap or punish Gyro I disagree because that would be a major advancement like would you scrap your Roomba if it started talking no you would try to figure out how it did that, what Gyro did saved the day and the man know that (yes the people got away but I don’t think Gyro could do anything about that and I think the man knows that too).
Nuuuuu not Gyro!!!
Let me guess. There is no “standard” robots in this comic, even Gyro is probably some kind of experiment-prototype-misfit or some such.
He’s gotta be. I want to learn more about him, like if he has a mysterious past like the other characters. 🙂
Even though Breakers have primitive programming , Gyro has a lot of emotion.
Oh thank god, I reached the end of a comic and it’s actually still going for once.
I love this comic so much, Socket and Pivot are so wholesome and pure! And Gyro is a definite bro. 🙂
I vote on Gyro being Pivot and Socket’s bodyguard/witness protection officer once they go on that vacation. 🙂
I second this vote.
Please stand up for Gyro, please stand up for Gyro, please stand up for Gyro…
He’s CLEARLY not JUST a “basic” (from our perspective, cause he’s craftily given Pivot a “thumbs up”). Because if he can manage to think even a little outside the box, then he’s not JUST a basic.
Agreed, after all he trusted Pivot on those first few missions and she did the same, they made a great team.
He’s not just some “basic” breaker unit, he’s a good ally and a great friend.
I’m sorry did you just call the best partner basic? Pivot teach this man a lesson
I think tis’ more a comment on what class of robot Gyro’s supposed to be: according to WoG/Zedrin, there are ‘Basics,’ and ‘Androids’ in the PV-02 verse. To quothe his CuriousCat:
“There are two kinds of bots in PV02: androids and basics.
Basics are simple minded and hard coded. They adhere to their programming and have strict rules they have to follow. They’re usually only given basic assignments.
Androids have gray logic and come from rapidly scanning a human brain to try and emulate it. As a result androids can make judgment calls and have a sense of morality, much like a human.”
By this logic, I’d think they make the more dangerous industrial robots like breakers ‘basic’ units so that they remain predictable and compliant. So when a breaker starts exhibiting independent thought…
So basically, basic is like the robot arms in factories, and androids are more like Vision from Avengers.
An apt summary, though I’m certain there’s more nuances to basics beyond simple robot arms.
For one, Gyro and apparently breakers in general are classified as basics and I’d strenuously object to comparing them to simple robot arms…emphasis on their arms aside.
For another, if I’m reading the scene correctly back in chapter 4 at page 72, the humanoid zombots might classify as basics based on what Axel’s remarking about them.
Not quite. Basics still have the ability to decide, if you recall the page where Pivot gets assigned to Epsilon. It’s just that because Basics have relatively simple programming, they prefer to follow orders over making split-second decisions themselves. Axle even says it that way, “They’re supposed to take orders, usually **don’t like making decisions themselves.**”
…is the decision-making thing a comment on the zombots? Because fair and true enough…was going with the literal definition of basics, but fair and true enough.
If you do something to the best boy of this universe….
That breaker bot deserves a promotion in my opinion, he did help them out a lot, it’d be stupid to get rid of a good employee.
It seems like they might do some investigating into Gyro. Better pray he doesn’t have any shady history. Pretty sure he’ll come out fine though.
0_0 Please tell me Gyro’s gonna be ok.
Here’s hoping!
Socket would have gotten hurt regardless of Pivot’s involvement, and probably much worse. Vigilance is probably her best bet in keeping those she cares about safe
I second that, it seems like the most logical choice to keep em safe.
“A Basic defying its orders”
That’s a big tone change moment there
yeah, I’m scared. 🙁
If I was the programmer of that basic I would defend it saying it was just following by example, and was responding to an escalating situation in which a superior “pivot” was in danger. Or that they should be glad at its ability to to act on changes in circumstances.
I would imagine a scenario in a military operation where they suddenly come under a surprise ambush, or their squad commander decided to rescue civilians, that the breaker would have to adjust to these new priorities in a situation where they have no orders, or conflict with current objectives, obviously I would want something that reevaluates its actions based on such circumstances.
I agree.
I second this, I think the term “Emergent Behavior” would be very fitting for this, not to mention if I were another android in this scenario I’d remind him that A.I. with any capacity to adapt and adjust will inevitably grow.
(kinda like R2D2 and starwars)
Well, all things considered it’s… not too surprising that PV reacted in such a way. It’s hard to say how far Hivewell’s filthy arms reach so it’s not unreasonable to be afraid he might do more harm.
He changed his name to Hivemind now. Just wanna make sure you know that.
oh. oh.
don’t do it
don’t even think about it Vigilance man
not the best giant robot boy
stahp
Agreed, let him be a bodyguard for Pivot and Socket or something during the vacation…please don’t send him to the scrap heap. 🙁
I second this. If he is sent to the scrap yard I am gonna lose my head.
I third; you have my moose on this!
…because I’m anon e. moose
*applause*
Thanks for lighting up my day.
Spelling correction: “Wouldn’t” is missing its “U”
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Pivot: Is that a no or-
Gordon: Sure. Why not?
Pivot: Oh. So…uhh.
Gordon: AlrightpivotyougottaleavenowIstillhavesomeworktodohaveanicedaythanksforvisiting!
*Shoves Pivot out the office*
Pivot: …what just happened?
Relay: Uhh sir, isn’t that a-
Gordon: Keep an eye on them, Relay.
Relay: Roger that…wait…does that mean-
Gordon: Yes, you’re going with them.
Relay: *Internally Screaming*
here’s hoping that’ll be closely accurate for the next page, fingers crossed.
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Okay so to all of you who think that they will scrap or punish Gyro I disagree because that would be a major advancement like would you scrap your Roomba if it started talking no you would try to figure out how it did that, what Gyro did saved the day and the man know that (yes the people got away but I don’t think Gyro could do anything about that and I think the man knows that too).